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A fine effort, Woggly! Reads very professionally -- you've obviously got talent as a budding encyclopedia writer. The article might benefit from a slightly more chronological ordering (after the lead section noting her significance), i.e., "born", then "educated", then "moved to Vermont", then "married", "book club", "Montessori" and "writing" in whatever the appropriate order might be, perhaps followed after by "honorary degrees", "Eleanor Roosevelt", "eponymous award established", etc., all with dates. It shouldn't hurt to repeat some of the things in the introduction with a little more detail. I'd be interested to know how she encountered the Montessori method, and perhaps in where and how she died (if notable or available).

(I also capitalized BotM club, which deserves its own entry, and de-wikied the second occurence of Montessori -- we don't need multiple links to the same page from a single article.)

Hope that's helpful, -- Catherine (talk) 02:02, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Very helpful, thanks. There is plenty to expand upon, and I'll keep your comments in mind when I do so! --Woggly 07:41, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Son

Dorothy Canfield Fisher's son was named James Canfield Fisher and he was known as "Captain Jimmy" to the Rangers in his battalion (info from the book The Great Raid on Cabanatuan by William B. Breuer). PhantomWSO (talk) 20:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

A photo of Dorothy with her mother is at [1]. Their statement doesn't assert any copyright but I'm not sure about before that - it derives from 'We Too Built Columbus', edited by Ruth Young White, Stoneman Press, 1936, and I'm not sure who before that, and not being familiar with US copyright law re photographs I hesitate to add it myself. But if anyone else knows it's safe, it would be a good addition both to this article and to Flavia Camp Canfield. --Zeborah (talk) 08:38, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Children

Son's info should not be in her bio

It comes off very oddly to have a paragraph about Canfield Fisher's son and his death in WWII in the middle of her biography. The biography is about her, not about him. This would more properly be a mention of his name with a link to his own page, if he merits one. The photo as well does not seem relevant to her biography. --Lizzard (talk) 01:36, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Later that day, the editor created section Children (now sec 10) at the end of the article and moved "Son's info" and photo there. --P64 (talk) 04:17, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Daughter, grandaughter

I added daughter Sally --and their birthyears from DCF's UVLibraries biography [ref name=collection], without reading that source otherwise-- who wrote a few more children's books after mom's death, LCCat shows.

Evidently one children's book by granddaughter Vivian was published, in time for DCF to appreciate that success if not to see the book. WorldCat: The Potted Witch At WorldCat and LCCat, i didn't find any other publication likely to be by this Vivian Scott.

--P64 (talk) 04:17, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vivian Scott at Library of Congress, with 3 library catalog records

The Library believes that it has differentiated another Vivian Scott, born 1920 --probably not the grandd. of DCF, certainly not the daughter of Sally Scott. WorldCat redirects the undifferentiated VS to the one born 1920.

Works by or about Vivian Scott in libraries (WorldCat catalog)

Under all murky circumstances we must doubt whether the 1955 MA thesis on Dickens OCLC 232188177 was written by one or the other or a third VS. Back in LCCat, Conflict resolution at work for dummies (2010) must be the work of another VS, warranting the undifferentiated tag.

--P64 (talk) 02:09, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Today in section Notes (current version) we have anonymous insertion of an autobio-bibliographical note by/about granddaughter Vivian Scott (Hixson). That note was inserted with this edit summary: I clarified and added to the list of my publications. I am the Vivian Scott listed as "undifferentiated".

Vivian Scott Hixson at Library of Congress, with 4 library catalog records

--said to be born 1936-09-21, sociologist and part-time college professor

Hixson at WorldCat. --P64 (talk) 19:37, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Canfield Fisher

>In 1911 Canfield Fisher visited the "children's house..."

Why is she listed by her maiden name and married name, instead of just her married name? They aren't hyphenated. Millions of women use their maiden name as their middle name when they marry but, unless hyphenated, nobody refers to them by both. Shouldn't this be changed to just "Fisher"? Rissa, copy editor (talk) 03:40, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

She is "Canfield Fisher" in "Home Economics" by Elizabeth J. Wright.
She is "Canfield Fisher" in prose at University of Vermont library. See the biography associated with "Dorothy Canfield Collection (1865-1958)".

See References 1 and 3 as numbered today. The superscripts imply that those are our two most important sources.

She is "Fisher" in Gale Major Authors and Illustrators for Children and Young Adults, 2002. -- now Ref #4
Her canonical name is "Fisher, Dorothy Canfield" in the Library of Congress Catalog and also at Project Gutenberg -- two External links

--P64 (talk) 19:27, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

John J Pershing?

I just picked up Mitchell Yockelson's Forty-Seven Days, How Pershing's Warriors Came of Age. It indicates that sometime between 1891 and 1895 Pershing (then at the University of Nebraska as an instructor)taught math to Dorothy Canfield (and Willa Cather) at some sort of prep school associated with the U of N. OK, Cather was in Nebraska at the time. There is no indication Canfield ever was in Nebraska. Any thoughts? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 07:56, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

According to the sources I'm looking at, Dorothy Canfied Fisher moved to Nebraska with her family in 1891 when her father became the Chancellor of the U. of Nebraska and that she met Willa Cather there: American Women Writers, 1900-1945, The Story Behind the 1921 Dorothy Canfield Fisher Letter --Ethomsen (talk) 03:32, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Montessori

Does anyone have a source for her involvement in bringing the Montessori method to the US? My understanding is that this was coming over in many forms at that time, and I don't think you can pin the growth of the movement to her alone here. Taconictonic (talk) 17:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See The Author Who Brought the Montessori Method to Life in Her Fiction Dorothy Canfield Fisher’s novels took family life and childhood development seriously, glorying in the daily accumulation of small insights and struggles for mastery, by Perri Klass, In Her Words -- Montessori Guide, and Dorothy Canfield Fisher by Ursula DeYoung. HopsonRoad (talk) 21:18, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]